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Ok , in an effort to increase posts   (just kidding) i thought i would hit the hot topic button , and see how everyone feels about the battle between apple and the fbi...

should there be a back door to iphones or droids for that matter , that would allow for the goverment to access the phone of a suspected ( or convicted ) criminal .    I can understand both sides of the coin. having a back door would allow for the retrieval of data , that could - aid investigators  and possible provide data to prevent future attacks ..

i also understand that once a key has been made, once leaked it could be used on any ones phone...

i try to imagine myself having such key.....    first i would need to have possession of the phone, then i would need to have criminal intent...    or  a strong desire to spy on my wife ...    

i would not say at this point i am in favor of the (key) .   just thinking out loud.....   i know when they apprehend a suspect they collect computers , documents,  evidence etc.....   this is shared  with both legal teams ,  what makes a phone different?

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AZ1 Leo Shults, AIMD 1983

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As a retired computer guy, back doors are a bad idea.  Doesn't matter how deep it's buried or how many keys are needed.  The very people they hope to catch will find a way to exploit it.

Just imagine a backdoor on iPhones.  ISIS (who seem to be very tech savvy) finds a way to gain access and turns every one of them in to an incendiary device.

I don't want my phone to blow up in my pocket or on my night stand in the middle of the night.

Just remember, anything that has a battery and computer code can be programmed to explode.
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I think Apple should open the terrorist's cellphone for the FBI. Apple does not have to show the FBI how to open it. Simply open it and give it to the FBI to allow them to see if other terrorists are still alive. Apple is wrong.
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rick, it is my very limited understanding, that apple does not yet have the code to crack it. i believe they need to build a new os with a back door built into it .....       there is an article on nbcnews.com

i think if the phone could only be cracked "in house" and under a court order , treated as evidence , it should be allowed... same as a pc...

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rick, it is my very limited understanding, that apple does not yet have the code to crack it. i believe they need to build a new os with a back door built into it .....       there is an article on nbcnews.com

i think if the phone could only be cracked "in house" and under a court order , treated as evidence , it should be allowed... same as a pc...


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If apple opens it and prints up all the data and gives it to the gov. That would be ok if they could do that.
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From someone still involved with government computer systems, especially Shore and Shipboard computers and networks, I say Apple MUST crack it and provide the information - without any "censorship" - to the government in this case or any case similar to this.  This is National Security. 

If Apple doesn't have the ability (as it (falsely) claims), then it should work with Industry to crack it.  John McAfee said he could do it. 

Any other request for Apple to crack it will not be allowed.  National Security interest only. 

If Apple absolutely refuses, I, as President of the United States, would ban all Apple products from being sold, purchased, or owned in the United States, as Apple directly supports terrorism as that point. First Amendment rights do not apply in terrorism cases.  This is my opinion, yours may vary. 

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I have been thinking on this very touchy subject, but before I post my thoughts on this subject answer me this?

The various news sources recently talked about the lack of security on cell phones. In the news story, they were claiming that regardess if your hne was on or off they could listen to what was going on in your house and even potentially get a photo of it.

So if they can do that, why would the FBI need Apple to give them a backdoor?

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uva7@yahoo.com

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i would love to see the article on that gunny,,  not that i am not a believer , i just love to see both sides of the coin..  i think we live in a world where people tend to be a little paranoid.  over the years we have had more conspiracy theories ,   and fear of the feds is rising,

witht the introduction of email sniffers, where key words could be filtered to identify potential terrorist emails , the world freaked out that the feds were reading all of our emails....   (i dont have time to read my emails let alone "all" the emails).   i learned along time ago, if you dont want it to be read , dont write it down.. 

computers have web cams and are much easier to install key loggers , remote log in software , trajans, back doors , spybots etc...  so have we all placed tape over our web cams ?

there was a case of smart tv's that could be activated and could have web cams and mic's turned on..  wonder if everyone unplugs their tv's at night or during the day..

i have a little quad copter that i must register as A "DRONE"   half the world thinks im spying on my neighbors , and the other half thinks im interfearing with commercial aircraft.

long story short...   i think we have people that are unhappy, with goverment, health care, law enforcement , bla bla bla ,  and i think the level of un trust in those areas has lead to a overall untrust in just about everything..    i think hatred is growing too...

i have been having fun "de bunking fb posts , i will share a few more of the in another thread i started today.....  
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