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Keith Brownmiller

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In Josephine County, Oregon, the police only work less than 8 hours a day. A lady calling 911 to report being raped was told to hide or run away, because there were no police to send.

Is this what our country is being reduced to? No police, no guns, what is going to happen next.

Read the full article here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-oregon-raped-911-send-home-article-1.1353085

This is just one of many stories on the subject.

What are your thoughts and how do we as a society fix it?

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In Josephine County, Oregon, the police only work less than 8 hours a day. A lady calling 911 to report being raped was told to hide or run away, because there were no police to send.

Is this what our country is being reduced to? No police, no guns, what is going to happen next.

Read the full article here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-oregon-raped-911-send-home-article-1.1353085

This is just one of many stories on the subject.

What are your thoughts and how do we as a society fix it?
Sad to think some people dont like cops, and many dont like guns, a real bad choice people if you fall in to these two thoughts, World peace is a nice thought but history dictates that this wont happen in our life time and probably never, too many cultures , to many faiths and way to many people clinging on to false hope, reality is the way I live based on what I can see, and what I can control, we need more Cops, and if funding doesnt exist to provide them then we the people need to arm up and protect lives and property, family , and animals . We as people need to make a stand and control what we can, and hope things change, this story is sad, and hurts me that this could happen, it should wake people, you would think anyway
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From what I can figure out Dan and Barb don't live in this county. They are a bit farther north.
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I am my own law enforcement .
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When seconds count, law enforcement is just minutes away!  I am in law enforcement and I tell people who ask, pretty much just that.  Nothing beats being responsible for your own, and your family's safety when the SHTF! At home, the mall or the grocery store for that matter.  You guys are definitely right.   
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In Oregon many counties had come to rely on a Federal timber monies to fund much of their law enforcement. When that went away (pretty much, though a very small amount still is around through this year) LE took a HUGE hit. I lived about 150 mile north of Josephine County in Lane County, but this county took a huge hit too. In about 1985 (give or take) there were 80 deputies in the main office of the Sheriff Office. That did not include all the resident deputies in the outlying communities.

When the bottom fell out it got bad. The jail which should hold about 500, was down to 14 open beds! So an example, one night I was working graveyard. I was sent to back up the deputy. Here's the deal...there were two deputies on in a county that's roughly 4600 sq miles! He was coming from mile post 50, east of Eugene, 20 miles south to where I was and then we were going to mile post 19, east of town. By my count that was about 90 miles for his response. Do the math on response time, even running Code 3. Oh, I guess I should include it was a domestic call. As it turns out it was BS, but it easily could have been the real thing.

It's been up and down for years.

Long story short, the voters in lane county passed a levy this past year which allowed the jail to open 190 beds ( or something close to that) and add some deputies, but it's still far below what it should be.

The voters in Josephine County keep voting down the levies and as a result they have had to lay off all the deputies save for the Sheriff and a very few deputies. Oregon State Police have been supplementing them just to have some LE. Unless you are a very serious offender you don't go to jail or if you do your out in a very short time (hours or less).

Having been from a dispatcher up to asst. Chief in the last 26 years we've seen it first hand. Luckily I worked for a municipal agency and didn't have the budget problems and bad guys who needed to go to jail got to go to jail... Our jail ( we had 16 beds) so they didn't get out like they would have at the County level.

It's not pretty! Hopefully it will get better, but it's for others to deal with now. I don't miss it... Like I thought I would... Since I live in the county, I know who my LE is... Me.
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That was very interesting. Thanks for the detailed post.
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