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I'm interested in getting a Walther P22 for my wife to use for fun shooting, and a Walther PK380 for home defense.  The logic behind it is both are just about the same frame and weight.  The P22 gives her the opportunity to blast away and get intimately familiar with the feel and weight of the P22 but prepares her for the PK380 with the G2R R.I.P. ammo as a 1 or 2 shot stopper for her defense while she is at the NV house alone.  

Buying a P22 is OK, as long as it is the CA approved model, but the PK380 isn't legal in CA.

So I got to thinking - I have a home in NV and I'm eligible to get a NV Seasonal ID Card (since my primary residence is CA) and then I can buy whatever I want.

Nope.  No can do.  Because I have a CA drivers license, a NV store is not able to run the background check.  No background check, no gun.   

I HATE CALIFORNIA.
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If you have a Nv ID, you should be able to purchase a weapon with it. Nobody is "required" to have a drivers license, therefore you should be able to purchase with a state issued ID. I have been told, at least with a state issued ID you can make a weapons purchase.

Further if the PK380 was going to "stay" in Vegas no problem then.

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Gunny, you are correct, up to a point.  What the law is about is keeping those of us in CA from going to other states and buying guns not on the CA Authorized List and bringing them back. (I sooooo want a BMG .50!!!!!)  I will be asked if I have a drivers license from another state, since my ID is a "SEASONAL" ID - the only kind I can qualify for in NV.  Once I say yes, from CA, that is the end of the story.  I can't say now because it will show up when they DROS me.  The guy (from the store we shot at when we were at the reunion) said I could work with an FFL in CA - BUT since the PK380 isn't on the authorized list for CA (except for LEOs), I can't take possession of it. 

I can't wait until I retire and move to NV for good.

FYI, I just got back from a store here and I ordered (backordered) the P22 (without the laser) for Cris.  I will figure out the home defense solution later.  Anyway.....  the guys at the store mentioned if you are going to buy a long gun, TODAY was the last day in CA to order one and get DROS'd to take delivery on 31 December.  On 1 January, the new law goes into effect and you must take a written test and get a Long Gun Safety Card and perform a safety demonstration before you can walk away with a long gun.  I know, it doesn't affect us Military guys and LEOs, but for the general populace, it is yet another case of California taking the 2nd Amendment and wiping it poopy butt with it.  <wording changed to not offend folks>  Funny about that comment.......  that is what the guy in Las Vegas said to me this afternoon, and a similar but more "family friendly" version from the gun store here in San Diego. 
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Man, I thought the liberals had screwed up Colorado, but, California, man, what a mess.

A background check takes about 15 min's in Colorado.  After Sandyhook, it was about 10 days, but the outcry was so loud they tweaked the system and got it under control.

We're expecting the large mag ban to get repealed next year with all the new republicans in the state house and the democrat Governor barley getting reelected, then saying the law was a mistake.

He's even open to discussing allowing teachers to be armed in school.

We'll see.
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At least as I understand it in Texas, if I were to have an address to a property that I live in and can prove residence, I can get a state ID and theoretically go from the DMV office with my ID straight to a gun store down from the house and later that day if I have enough money,I am headed home with a new gun.
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You wife will be styling with the Walter PK380.

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I just received in the mail my CCW packet from the state of Florida. Since I have a residence there, I am going to get my CCW license from Florida. With my Ohio and Florida CCW licenses, that should allow me to carry in 40 some states.
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Well, since we're discussing wives and guns...  No I didn't shoot mine.

I took my wife to the range last month and rented her a Ruger LCR-9S.  Striker fired with only 4.5 lb trigger pull (the older LCR-9 was hammer fired and had an 8 lb pull).

For a person who has been indifferent to guns, she sure likes this one.  It fits her hand like a glove.  I'll be getting her one for her birthday.

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My latest acquisition, M&P 9mm Shield, I fear might become Jo's as she likes it above the others, so far.
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More research... Yup, the guy at the The Gun Store was correct.  I'd have to give up my CA DL and get a NV DL, or a NV ID.  Unfortunately that comes with all kinds of legal and TAX problems, since I still live in CA, work in CA, pay taxes in CA.  So, now the search is on.  I need a lightweight, small frame .380 for the wife that is CA legal.  MUST HAVE a rail, either under or over, for a laser sight.  I want her to be able to put the dot on target and fire a max 2 rounds.  She has very, Very, VERY tiny wrists - think of a 4 year old - and has the hand/wrist strength of one too.  She can fire my 9MM once, and then throw it at her attacker, with her bad hand.  That's it. 

California sucks.  Man, I should have joined the San Diego Sheriffs Department when I had the chance.  [frown]
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More research... Yup, the guy at the The Gun Store was correct.  I'd have to give up my CA DL and get a NV DL, or a NV ID.  Unfortunately that comes with all kinds of legal and TAX problems, since I still live in CA, work in CA, pay taxes in CA.  So, now the search is on.  I need a lightweight, small frame .380 for the wife that is CA legal.  MUST HAVE a rail, either under or over, for a laser sight.  I want her to be able to put the dot on target and fire a max 2 rounds.  She has very, Very, VERY tiny wrists - think of a 4 year old - and has the hand/wrist strength of one too.  She can fire my 9MM once, and then throw it at her attacker, with her bad hand.  That's it. 

California sucks.  Man, I should have joined the San Diego Sheriffs Department when I had the chance.  [frown]

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Install the Hogue Handall grip!

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Gunny, I have the M&P 40 Shield.  Nice gun.  I like that it's a single stack and light.  I don't like the polymer frame.  I don't get a confidant grip.  I added a rubber grip that helps solve that. 

Steve, I thought my wife would like the .380 better too, but, the small frame Colt .380 she tried was harder for her to control than the Ruger LCR-9S.  Even though its a smaller round, they use more powder.  In a small frame that results in more kick. 

She shot less than 10 rounds in a rental at the range and wanted nothing more to do with it.  Now I have a partial box of .380 ammo, but I don't have a gun she doesn't want.
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Steve, you can have both a Ca DL and a Nv ID. You should be able to purchase a weapon with your Nv ID and Nv address. There should be no question about Ca residence. That is my understanding. Unless they have changed the laws again.
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Steve, you can have both a Ca DL and a Nv ID. You should be able to purchase a weapon with your Nv ID and Nv address. There should be no question about Ca residence. That is my understanding. Unless they have changed the laws again.

Gunny, I can only qualify for a Seasonal ID in NV because NV is not my primary residence.  They will see that as soon as they run my name and see I have a CA DL - yeah the DMVs are linked, at least CA and neighboring states.  I would have to surrender my CA DL to get a NV DL or NV ID (not Seasonal) and I can't do that because my primary address is here in CA. 

And NV no longer recognizes the Seasonal ID for the use of purchasing weapons.
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Gunny, I have the M&P 40 Shield.  Nice gun.  I like that it's a single stack and light.  I don't like the polymer frame.  I don't get a confidant grip.  I added a rubber grip that helps solve that. 

Steve, I thought my wife would like the .380 better too, but, the small frame Colt .380 she tried was harder for her to control than the Ruger LCR-9S.  Even though its a smaller round, they use more powder.  In a small frame that results in more kick. 

She shot less than 10 rounds in a rental at the range and wanted nothing more to do with it.  Now I have a partial box of .380 ammo, but I don't have a gun she doesn't want.


Leo, the .380 will only be for 1 or 2 shot self defense.  She can't hold my 9MM due to its weight, it's a large frame semi-auto.  We picked the .380 because she can use it to fire the G2Research R.I.P. rounds, pretty much guaranteeing a kill shot if she hits center mass, or incapacitation any other place.

The Rugers mentioned in this string are not CA legal, see  http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp.

And it is laws like this that make people obtain what they want illegally.  Yeah, California.
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