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I think it may be a Ford F150 Crew Cab. Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

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Drive all the brands chevy and dodge also. I found I liked the ride of the Silverado but look at all before you buy.
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Drive all the brands chevy and dodge also. I found I liked the ride of the Silverado but look at all before you buy.

Good suggestion. I will do it.
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Well, besides the ride, you need to ask yourself a few questions:

1. Why do you want a truck?

2. Are you going to use it as a daily driver?

3. How many people will be riding in it?

Don't buy a truck to drive to the grocery store, buy one because you need it, then buy the one that fits your needs.

I have a '02 F250 SD 4x4 diesel.  I bought it new to haul horses, hay and a 20' boat through the mountains.  I don't have the horses or the boat anymore, but I now have a trailer, so I still have a need for it.  But before we got the trailer, I was considering down sizing.  What I was looking at was a 4 door Nissan Frontier.
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I agree. I pull a travel trailer, when not towing I get about 21 mpg. When towing about 15 I have a light weight trailer. It's a 2014 Silverado z71 crew cab 6 ft bed.
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let me know what you decide on , im still driving a 2006 toyota tundra ext cab.   still getting 23 mpg and hauls a 20 foot pontoon boat like its nothing..  198,000 miles and other than u joints , and tires , ive had zero maintanance issues.
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Quick story for you truck guys...

My nephew has gotten into water sports, wake boarding ect., so he buys a ski boat, nice boat, but because he doesn't have a truck, he has to use his dad's truck, but only when my brother-in-law isn't working, soooo, he buys a truck.  A 2015 Dodge 3500 HD 4x4 crew cab with the Cummings Diesel, 40k miles.  Nice truck.

Way more truck than he needs for the boat, but, that's ok.  He decides that he needs bigger tires to look cool, so he swaps them out, $3k tiers and wheels.  Now the millage sucks, so he swaps out the turbo, $800, and removes all the emissions equipment.  Powers great, millage is back, all is good.

The turbo appears to have over heated a bearing which then froze causing the turbo to eat it's self sending parts throughout the intake and into the cylinders.  Because the turbo was the problem, the engine was still under warranty, until they found out that the emissions equipment had been removed.  Warranty canceled, their bid to rebuild it - $20k, using a crate engine $18k.

The finally found a shop to rebuild the engine for less than $10k.

So, if I remember right, he bought it for $40k, $3k in tires and wheels, $800 turbo and now $10k engine rebuild and he's only made payments on it for a year.
 
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That's why I get the truck I want, not one I can live with but will add aftermarket parts. Also check your load spec for your toys
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lost two reply posts , this is a test to see if this one makes it
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ugh, lost two previouse posts... this will be the shortest yet.

check timing belt vs chain,    also how easy it is to change out starter....       now that trucks are made on autocad , they are no longer maint friendly.  on a scion we owned it took 11 shop hours, to remove the steering console and dash back to the firewall to replace a 135.00 blower motor for the heater ... cost around 1200 bucks... so i would ask the maint dep a few questions on the man hours for parts that wear the fastest..
3rd try  lets see if this one goes..
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That's why I get the truck I want, not one I can live with but will add aftermarket parts. Also check your load spec for your toys


I totally agree.  And if I do make changes, I won't even consider it until I'm sure it won't affect any warranty.

My truck was 12 years old before I switched the air intake to a more efficient one, increased the exhaust from 2" to 3" and installed a programmer.  Added 3 mpg local and towing the trailer.
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ugh, lost two previouse posts... this will be the shortest yet.

check timing belt vs chain,    also how easy it is to change out starter....       now that trucks are made on autocad , they are no longer maint friendly.  on a scion we owned it took 11 shop hours, to remove the steering console and dash back to the firewall to replace a 135.00 blower motor for the heater ... cost around 1200 bucks... so i would ask the maint dep a few questions on the man hours for parts that wear the fastest..
3rd try  lets see if this one goes..


90% of the work on my truck is done by a shop or the dealer.  The only work I've done myself was new shocks last summer between trips and front sway bar end links today.

If I can't see the part to be repaired, I let someone else do it.  It's not like rebuilding my '65 or '72 Fords.

Check out the Cost of ownership for the trucks, that should help too.
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I don't have anything to tow. I don't live on a farm. I would use the truck like I use my car, to drive. I certainly don't have skills to work on a truck to repair or enhance it. My (hand) skills are basically good to clean cars and maybe, trucks, too, ha.
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Well, besides the ride, you need to ask yourself a few questions:

1. Why do you want a truck?

2. Are you going to use it as a daily driver?

3. How many people will be riding in it?

Don't buy a truck to drive to the grocery store, buy one because you need it, then buy the one that fits your needs.

I have a '02 F250 SD 4x4 diesel.  I bought it new to haul horses, hay and a 20' boat through the mountains.  I don't have the horses or the boat anymore, but I now have a trailer, so I still have a need for it.  But before we got the trailer, I was considering down sizing.  What I was looking at was a 4 door Nissan Frontier.

Ha. Oh no! I would use it to go to the store, YMCA, restaurants, shopping, etc. I may be an "urban cowboy". Is buying a truck a bad thing?
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Ford is making their F150 trucks with aluminum. I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing. I think I read it saves 800 pounds of weight.
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I drive mine locally, not sure how aluminum will hold up a friend has a Ford F-250 with the steel body, he blew one of his back tires and had 1500. Damage to the box from flying tire.
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Rick, if you don't need a full size truck to tow or haul things then look into the smaller trucks.  They are easier to park, fit in garages ect.

I've had Ford trucks since the 70's and been around them since the 50's (Dad started with a '58), so as far as I'm concerned, Ford does it right.  But, the Aluminum truck concerns me.  Aluminum is not as tough as steel.  I'm afraid the Chevy commercial where the tool box punches a hole in the bed is probably true.  I dropped a bale of alfalfa (70 lbs) from about 15' onto my tailgate, not to one truck, but two.  When it hit, it caved the inside of the tailgate and put a curve on the outside.  If it had been aluminum, I figure it would have been ripped off or damaged so bad it wouldn't work any more.

We're talking about a new truck in the next year or two.  Preferably a F350 SD so I can tow a bigger trailer, but the 2017 F250/350 is now aluminum too, so I'm limiting my search to 2016 and older, unless the 2018 goes back to steel.
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All good suggestions here. Aluminum is very easy to dent and tear. I will check out the Chevy and GMC trucks, too.
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rick, i do find that my truck is very light in the rear...   handles like poop on snow  , even with new tires. sandbags will help, but a light truck might be good o gas milage but handling is another thing(  it is a 2 wheel drive, 4x4  will be alittle heavier.
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rick, i do find that my truck is very light in the rear...   handles like poop on snow  , even with new tires. sandbags will help, but a light truck might be good o gas milage but handling is another thing(  it is a 2 wheel drive, 4x4  will be alittle heavier.


LOL not just snow!

Last spring, I pulled out of a parking lot onto a wet 6 lane street.  I was trying to beat some traffic and almost spun the truck.  When I corrected and taped the gas peddle, I almost spun it the other direction.  It's really easy to do when 3/4 of the weight is located in the front 1/3 of the truck. 
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Man! Maybe I won't get a truck!
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Trucks are worth having just remember it is not a car. If you are in areas that have bad weather get the 4x4. Enjoy driving it.
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dont let us talk you out of it, i agree 4x4 .   trucks are great, just different.
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Yep, different is a good way to put it.  It's like carrying a gun.  I've had a truck all but 6 yrs of the last 37.
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had a car for a short amount of time,     once you get use to seeing over the top of everything else , its hard to go back to a car... if nothing else i like sitting up higher and having the visability.
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so rick whats the price tag on that f150   ? im guessing 36
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Poat photos of the new truck when you get it. Truck on
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I went online and checked out the prices of a 2017 F350 fully loaded - $80k.  At the same time, I've been looking at autotrader and see 2015/6 F350's for $40-60k.
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ouch, what the heck happened , ten years ago i think we paid 19,000 for a new tudra 2x2...      went to the dealer and asked if he could get me the same truck but a 2016  got a quote of 38,000..       re sale on my truck 11 years later , and they are going for 12-14..      prices are just nuts....
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My 2002 F250 has just about everything that was available then and it was 38k new.  The replacement is about 60k.
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When I traded in my 07 2500hd in 2014 they gave me 3k less then I paid for it. I drove it 6 years for 3k
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