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What do you guys and gals think about having an annual forum shooting contest? We would award bronze, silver, and gold metals to the top three shooters. We would use the same target that can be purchased at Walmart, shoot the same distance for six or ? shots, take a picture of your target, post the picture on the forum, and have judges determine who wins?
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We would upload something like this.

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I bet the Marines will win all three metals!
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I would argue that this should be done quarterly. As well as photographing the targets to be submitted, a photo of the weapon used in the competition. The weapon should be stock, meaning NO lasers, NO scope, just basic sight. The distances should be varied anywhere between. 15-25 yards. I would volunteer to be one of the judges and I would hope that Charlie and David would join me. Then Rick could be the third judge on the judges entry, I would also suggest that we have three categories, first, calibers below 32, second, between 38 and 40 to include 9mm and third, calibers 45 and above. Do you think that revolvers should compete against the semi-automatic pistols? What do you think about our wives having their own division for competition? I would vote yes! What say you?
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Bonnie would shoot. I think auto and revolvers would be ok together if it is not a timed shoot. But if timed then separate.
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I would argue that this should be done quarterly. As well as photographing the targets to be submitted, a photo of the weapon used in the competition. The weapon should be stock, meaning NO lasers, NO scope, just basic sight. The distances should be varied anywhere between. 15-25 yards. I would volunteer to be one of the judges and I would hope that Charlie and David would join me. Then Rick could be the third judge on the judges entry, I would also suggest that we have three categories, first, calibers below 32, second, between 38 and 40 to include 9mm and third, calibers 45 and above. Do you think that revolvers should compete against the semi-automatic pistols? What do you think about our wives having their own division for competition? I would vote yes! What say you?

I only have revolvers! Yes, please count any hand gun! I want in all the fun, too!
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We can do it quarterly. I think having an odd number of judges, Keith, Charlie, and David would be best. You cannot have a tie, ha. 
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I have a Ruger .22LR, a Ruger .38 Special +P, and a Smith & Wesson that shoots both .38 Special and .357 Magnum. Would I be able to participate in the three categories? Come on guys, make it easy to play, ha! It's all about friendship and having fun. How cool to do this with guys and gals around the ENTIRE USA! TARAWA FORUM ROCKS!
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We would upload something like this.
that would be fun Rick, but no cheating
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We would upload something like this.
that's my target in lower right corner, someone told me to open my eyes
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Rick, for a guy up until last year who hadn't touched a weapon since your military days, you are becoming a true gun nut. Since you have nothing in the 45 caliber group, you would compete in 2 of the 3 proposed groups. I would assume that Mary Lou will get involved.
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America's Top Gun

Hey Keith, I am thinking about making a website that will allow ALL shooters in American to participate in shooting at their local ranges against other Americans, like the idea we are thinking about doing here. It could be called, America's Top Gun. We can have Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Colt, Sig, Glock, etc. be a part of the national competition. What do you think? Maybe we should develop the idea with our quarterly Tarawa Top Gun on Tarawa Forum first? I am NOT a gun expert, but I can put together everything we would need on the Internet. IF we could find ten or so Tarawa shipmates that would like to be a part of this undertaking, I think we can do it. I would cover all Internet expensives, including the media server for videos. I just don't know too much about shooting. Your thoughts?
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We can do it quarterly. I think having an odd number of judges, Keith, Charlie, and David would be best. You cannot have a tie, ha. 
odd member that's me ha would be glad to be a member
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While taking things outside the realm of the Tarawa, would take some real planning! For us it I hope is about having fun and developing comradeship, but taken outside, there should be entry fees, to cover the cost of prizes and administration..

Within our Tarawa realm, there are some other benefits that we can develop within our group. I will post those a bit later once I get the info together. Once posted, we can discuss and find a way to implement.

Glad you are onboard, David.

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While taking things outside the realm of the Tarawa, would take some real planning! For us it I hope is about having fun and developing comradeship, but taken outside, there should be entry fees, to cover the cost of prizes and administration..

Within our Tarawa realm, there are some other benefits that we can develop within our group. I will post those a bit later once I get the info together. Once posted, we can discuss and find a way to implement.

Glad you are onboard, David.


Okay. Let's develop it on Tarawa Forum first. It will allow us to iron out all the wrinkles. It will also allow us to make more friends on the forum, too.

We have two judges, Keith and David. We need a third. Charlie, do you want to be in the pressure seat?
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He does, just doesn't want to admit it until after his first win or two.
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This target can be purchased at Walmart, Amazon, and on the Internet. It is made by Birchwood Casey. I need the three judges to make a determination if this target is good to use in our national shooting competition. Here is some more information about it.

Improve your aim by using this Birchwood Casey Shoot-N-C Target. Each package comes with 60 sheets, making this item economical to use. The targets feature adhesive backs that make them very easy to use. Simply tack them onto virtually any surface and start shooting. Once your bullet hits the target, it will explode in color, forming a bright yellow ring around the hole. This ring is bright enough to see from long distances with the naked eye, allowing you to practice without interruption. This Bull's Eye 6" self-adhesive target comes with 720 pasters. Use them to patch the target to extend its life. You can use them for both short and long distance shooting with airguns, rifles and handguns.

Birchwood Casey Shoot-N-C Self Adhesive Bull's Eye 6" Target, 60 Sheets Per Pack:

60 per pack
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Birchwood Casey target, 60 sheets per pack includes 720 pasters
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Model No.34550 Shipping Weight (in pounds)1.0 Product in Inches (L x W x H)12.25 x 7.0 x 0.25 Assembled in Country of OriginUSA Origin of ComponentsUSA Wal-Mart No.552027744
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This is also Birchwood Casey from Walmart. With the detail this target offers, the judges may like this one better.

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For practice the yellow one is perfect, however for the actual competition the light green one above is perfect as it will provide the judges the ability to accurately judge the competition.

Here is my proposal for our online competition:

1. That we use June 5-20 for a practice match to allow for judges to ensure that they have a practice period.
2. Announcement of the winners will be on 30 June.
3. Then if the judges agree that from the practice match they are ready to score live competition, we start formal competition on 5 July for 15 days,tthen allowing the judges 10 days to score the targets and make the announcement of winners.

Another note: For example a competitor has a 9mm and a 357 caliber weapon, they must choose which pistol they are going to enter in the competition. Reason being, that not everybody has multiple weapons in the same category. We want to ensure a fair round of competition.

So lets all get to the range and practice.

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For practice the yellow one is perfect, however for the actual competition the light green one above is perfect as it will provide the judges the ability to accurately judge the competition.

Here is my proposal for our online competition:

1. That we use June 5-20 for a practice match to allow for judges to ensure that they have a practice period.
2. Announcement of the winners will be on 30 June.
3. Then if the judges agree that from the practice match they are ready to score live competition, we start formal competition on 5 July for 15 days,tthen allowing the judges 10 days to score the targets and make the announcement of winners.

Another note: For example a competitor has a 9mm and a 357 caliber weapon, they must choose which pistol they are going to enter in the competition. Reason being, that not everybody has multiple weapons in the same category. We want to ensure a fair round of competition.

So lets all get to the range and practice.

I will go to my Walmart and see if they have that target. I do know we can buy that particular target online at Walmart.com, if we need to. If anyone is thinking about participating in our shoots, please go to Walmart and see if they have that particular target Keith is referring to. I know we can order it online.
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Do you have the part numbers of both targets?
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Do you have the part numbers of both targets?

I just got back from my road trip to Walmart. This is the target that comes closest to the above target Keith was referring to. Not good. Our competition will have to order the targets online from Walmart. I will get the part numbers to you later Keith.

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I just got back from my road trip to the trophy store. I explained to the owner about our online competition for Tarawa Top Gun. He is designing medals to wear around our necks. Similar to what you would wear in the Olympics. He will give me a call next week to show me what he came up with. He is also designing special shooting medals for Tarawa Top Gun at the reunion! I will snap a picture of both metals, upload them to the forum, and get your thoughts.
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I like the idea, but, I think you need to work on the rules a bit more.

1.  How many rounds per target?
2.  Distance should be fixed, everyone shoots the same distance.  Hard to compare 5 rounds at 15 ft to 25 rounds at 25 yards.  Also, remember, we're all getting old and maybe we can't see the target at 25 yards.

addressing just these two will prevent targets like this being considered.

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Thus far the distances would be fixed per competition say 15 yards this quarter and maybe 10 or 25 yards next quarter. The number of rounds per competition would be no more than 10.

We are close I think to announcing the first practice round to get all the bugs ironed out in the rules.

Thanks for your input.

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15 yards?  Ouch.  I have trouble hitting much less seeing the bulls eye at 10 with my 3.5" 40.  Guess I'll have to stick to the 45. [wink]
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I think Leo may be sandbagging. Watch him win one of the medals each quarter! I just don't want to finish last, ha. I'm in it for the fun and being with my Band of Brothers.

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I have to brag about Keith's marksmanship. He sent me a picture of a practice round. Look at the hole. Nine bullets went through the hole. The distance of 15 football fields!

Posted at fired with a "hi-point" 45 acp, iron sights at 1500 yards at night. 9 rounds in the same spot.

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Sandbagging, I wish!  My M&P Shield has a 3.5" barrel.  I start shooting at 20 feet and work out to 35.  My 45 has a 5" barrel and I can start it at 30.  Past 35 feet and that target is really small.  I can put 10 rounds on target at 40 feet, but...
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I think a 3 target shoot one 15 yard 20 yard 25 yard. 6 shot group.
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Sandbagging, I wish!  My M&P Shield has a 3.5" barrel.  I start shooting at 20 feet and work out to 35.  My 45 has a 5" barrel and I can start it at 30.  Past 35 feet and that target is really small.  I can put 10 rounds on target at 40 feet, but...

Okay, Leo. I'll just have to wait until you post your first target. 
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Each competition must have only one target to judge. If we go with two or three targets for each quarterly shoot, it will become difficult to judge. 
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